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. not because there hasn't been pain and tax rises and cuts affecting every family in this country. not because they didn't want to cut it borrowing. they did. not because your services aren't getting worse. they are. but because if you stop an economy growing, then it leaves more people out of work claiming benefits, not paying taxes. businesses struggle so they're not paying taxes. and as a result borrowing goes up. borrowing not to invest in schools, in hospitals, transport and education. but borrowing to keep people idle. so the next time you hear a conservative say to you labour would increase borrowing, just remember it is this government that is increasing borrowing this year. [applause] so what have we seen? we've seen recession, higher unemployment, higher borrowing. i don't think that's what people were promised. now look there will be some people who say, and this is an important argument, they'll be some people who say, well there is short-term pain but it is worth it for the long-term gain. but i'm afraid the opposite is true. you see that the longer you have low growth in our coun
to pay taxes, we should not be using taxes to reward people who fail. we should be using them to reward people that want to work. everybody in this country should succeed, not just people in government. host: president obama gave an address yesterday talking about how congress should act to keep taxes low. let's take a listen. >> 97% of small-business owners will not see their taxes go up next year. this is something everybody says they agree on. it should have gotten done months ago. republicans in congress are standing in the way. there are holding tax cuts for 98% of americans hostage until they pass tax cuts for of the richest 2%. congress needs to step up and provide every responsible homeowner a chance to save $3,000 a year on mortgage at refinancing at lower rates. i give them a plan to do that in february. it is a plan that has the support of independent nonpartisan economists. republicans will not let it come to a vote. ask them how that helps homeowners. congress needs to step up and pass my plan to create a job corps to help our returning heroes find jobs as cops, firefighter
comments on tax policy, senator chuck schumer talked about taxes. he spoke and answered questions at the national press club for about an hour. >> good morning. we're starting right on time today. i want to thank you for coming. i want to thank those who are joining us on c-span. on behalf of the national press club we're honored to have with us the senior senator from new york charles schumer. the senator will address the topic of tax reform. i just want to say i think this is an appropriate topic following a columbus day weekend. in club bus' time the prevailing weekend that there were dragons right over the horizon and most people thought the world was flat and anyone setting nauf a journey would go off the cliff. columbus thought he could find a new route. and today we're going to be exploring new tax reform and how to avoid a fiscal cliff. the senator will speak for about 20 to 25 minutes and then we will open up to questions. senator? >> ok. thank you, jamie for that very timely introduction. i want to thank the national press club. here's what i said yesterday at the new yo
on the trail. it is the gift that keeps on giving. >> how they can justify. raising taxes in the middle class. it has been buried in the last four years. how in the lord's name. >> that is nodt a froidian slip. plus three stories that happen to break before the election. a leftist new york attorneyy general looking to bash banks and that is as phony as a $3 bill. also a judge strikes down pennsylvania's voter id law and the obama administration is telling companies it is okay to disregard the law when it comes to handing out pink slips in advance to big budget cuts. all three happening before the election. mitt romney has finally put meat on the bones of his tax reform idea. he floated the idea of a $17,000 cap on tax reform reduction. >> you could say everyone is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction. you can fill that bucket if you will and higher income people might have a lower number. >> this is brand new stuff. we have howard dean former vermont governor and candidate. and let's look at this for a second. what do you think? a $17,000 cap on tax deductions for everybody as a way of bein
. and he was caught in a lie today about his secret tax returns. >>> and in voter suppression news, a big win for voters in a pennsylvania courtroom today. and in the rewrite, the only way mitt romney can win the debate, it was all laid out for him by the best republican presidential debater ever, who was of course a fictional character in the t.v. series olaf's pizza palace gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! pizza!!!!! [ garth ] olaf's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! helium delivery. put it on my spark card! [ pop! ] [ garth ] why settle for less? great businesses deserve the most rewards! awesome!!! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? we might still be making mix tapes. find this. pause this. play this. eject this. write this. it's like the days before esurance express lane™. you had to find a bunch of documents just to get a car insurance quote. now express lane finds your driving info with just
cliff. those expiring tax cuts and the budget cuts. if you would like to find out more, go to our website, c-, and type in "a fiscal cliff" in the search box. >> look at what president obama did on the budget, nothing. as a result of his abdication of leadership, as a result of seeing the most predictable economic crisis and our country's history and not fixing it, our credit rating was downgraded for the first time in our history. >> to be laid out a four trillion dollar debt reduction plan. ladies and gentlemen, these guys vote against everything. i really mean it. not only do they say they don't like our plan. i get that. you don't like our plan, what is your plan? >> thursday, paul brian and joe biden will face often their only debate. -- paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate. we will have a preview starting at 7:30 eastern. your reaction at 10:30. follow the live coverage on c- span, c-span radio, and online at the vice-presidential candidates preparing for that debate today. paul ryan in st. petersburg, fla., joe biden. president oba
you're in the position to buy your business, you needed a tax cut then. i want to make sure the plumber, said the nurse, the firefighter, it the teacher, the young entrepreneur who does not have money, i want to give them a tax break now. not only did 98% of small businesses like less than to under $50,000. i also want to give them additional tax breaks because they are the drivers of the economy. >> we need to spread the wealth around. in other words, we're going to take joseph money, give it to signature obama and let him spread the wealth around. the whole premise behind the plans are class warfare, but spread the wealth around. i want small businesses that would receive an increase in their taxes. why would you want to increase anybody's taxes right now? these people are going to create jobs unless you take that money for him and spread the wealth around. i am not going to do that. >> number one, i want to cut taxes for 90 5% of americans. it is sure my friend and supporter warren buffett could afford to pay a low tax. in order to give taxes. then exxon mobil which made
could be accurate or not. what is the person saying there should not be a millionaire tax or should be. who is the special interest dominating that message point coming out and how does the voter get through it? i think one the most amazing thicks happening in the country when you look at the president number heys doing well. what's fascinated about the amount of money being spent by the cross roads and the entity for some reason the message is not coming through it's not compel fpg you look at the swing states that we were going to be remarkably close are going to trend toward tbhawm a way that somebody thinks to seem unless the debate set the presidential election. it's clear the spt heading toward a environment he has a advantage. romney is going to be exceptional. >> tune in. >> fiewn in and watch. let watch. >> i'm excited. >> talk about in next week in class. >> would you taunt the cross road different and you engage in more localized races congressional and senate how you choose your priorities since so you have a broader scope. >> yeah. that's a good question. we're focused on
tax returns. >>> and in voter suppression news, a big win for voters in a pennsylvania courtroom today. and in the rewrite, the only way mitt romney can win the debate, it was all laid out for him by the best republican presidential debater ever, who was of course a fictional character in the t.v. series "the west wing." nd.. ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. to start her own interior design business. she's got a growing list of clients she keeps in touch with using e-mail marketing from constantcontact is easy and affordable. it lets her send out updates and photos that showcase her expertise and inspire her customers for only $15 a month. [ dog barking ] her dream -- to be the area's hottest interior design office. [ children laughing ] right now, she just dreams of an office. get a free trial at most paints have color that sits on the su
these things a lot tonight in my comments. i was the governor who drew top tax fraud. i had to cut $5 billion from the state budget, including my own salary. i'm the only governor in modern times who left the office with a smaller general fund budget and when i started. i know how to be fiscally responsible. my opponent when into the united states senate in 2001 with the biggest surplus in the united states and six years later left with massive deficits. during his time in the senate, the national debt went up by $16,000. he conceded that spending was a problem in the senate. we also have people who need to know how to work together. i learned to cut crime bills and the economy. my opponent said his job was to not democrats softly. he took this similar position in the senate, fighting efforts led by the then-senior virginia senator. when someone who will fight and that is what i will do is your next to none state senator. >> if mr. allen, your opening statement. >> thank you. it's much better future than what we are having to endure these days. that is why i put forward a detailed plan. my bl
to explain what paul ryan could not, how he plans to pay for $5 trillion tax cut by only eliminating deductions. >> there's an option. you could say everybody is going to get up to a deduction and you could use your home mortgage deduction or others, health care deduction and fill that bucket, if you will, the $17,000 bucket that way and higher income people might have a lower number. >> at least the plan has a name. it's the bucket plan. mitt romney will cap deductions at $17,000 for all americans. is that good for the middle class? do the math. for rich americans, the cap, it just might be lower than that. he was very vague on that point as well. the big problem with romney's bucket plan besides being hilarious is it would only cover $1 to $2 trillion of the $5 trillion tax cut. that's according to the tax policy center. they figured it out. even when romney gives specifics he doesn't answer the questions. e we still don't know how he plans to pay for the tax cuts without hurting the middle class. paul ryan is sticking to his reason for not giving any specifics to chris wallace on
/11, and today osama bin laden is dead. four years ago, i promise to cut taxes for middle-class families, and we have, by $3,600. of promised to cut taxes for small business owners, and we have 18 times. we got back every dime we used to rescue the banks, and we passed a law, to the end taxpayer-funded wall street bailouts permanently. we passed health care reform, also known as obamacare, because i do care. i do not want insurance companies, jerking you around anymore. i do not suit him -- do not want somebody without health care because they have a pre-existing condition. we repealed "don't ask, don't tell," as i promised him we would. today, he no outstanding soldier, marine, sailor, here man -- airman, none of them will be kicked out of the military because of who they are and who they love. when you think about ohio, and when governor romney said that we should let the auto industry go bankrupt -- we said, we are not going to take your advice. do not boo. vote. we reinvented a diving auto industry that supplies one in eight ohio jobs and has come roaring back to the top of the world. four y
the board tax cut that is estimated to cost taxpayers $4.8 trillion. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. >> first, i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut of the scale that you're talking. no economist can say mitt romney's tax plan adds 5 trillion. about i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. >> romney never actually said there would be a 20% tax cut? >> i'm going to lower rates across the board for all americans by 20%. i want a 20% across the board reduction in taxes. the individual marginal tax rate 20% across the board. the top rate, for instance, would go from 35 to 28, middle rates would come down by 20% as well, all rates come down. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was hurting the economy -- >> dodd frank i
week's debate, it's actually a plan to cut $5 billion in taxes, but he did it again tonight on cnn just a short time ago. the obama attacks are false, let's see what you think here. >> he ignores the fact that they're going to limit the deduction and -- he ignores that part. obviously that was corrected by the deputy campaign manager who stipulated the $5 trillion number was wrong. it's completely wrong. the combination of limiting deductions as well as growth of our economy will make up for the reduction in rate. >> bob shrum, thank got in the rest of this discussion with wolf blitzer, he clarified the fact he's going to cut $5 trillion in revenue, a lot of it from wealthy people. >>> he's not going to the bank, he's going to let that tax cut stand. you can call it a lie, he's cutting taxes for the rich. he says he's going to offset that, but when asked by wolf blitzer, are you going after where the money is, the mortgage deduction? rule going after charitable, which everybody seems to like? i'm not going to keep those preferences. how can he do it? is he houdini? >> he can't do it. th
and in this country, taxed more. if you tax small business, they are not going to hire. i don't know how you don't figure out what mr. romney so eloquently said in that debate. talking about politics of the 1% or the 47%, conservatives want the best for all folks, and yes, we mean thewe don't want them trapped in poverty. we want them married, paying their taxes -- host: we will get katrina vanden heuvel's response. guest: yeah. listen, if marriage will promote the well-being of the couple, children, great. but in my mind, it is and not just that. that is too simplistic. it is part of the equation. without good jobs, without ensuring that workers have rights and a time -- at the time when big business is so powerful, without doing small things that happened around this country but have taken too much effort, giving women, families early child care, the sense of a community coming together to lift up families, marriages not sufficient. to reduce it to that is too simplistic. no one is saying marriage isn't important. it is not the only a factor in building a family that is doing well. the fact th
providers like insurance companies that are overcharging. he has to attack on the issue of taxes. there aren't enough tax loopholes or tax deductions to pay for romney's tax cut unless you cut into home interest mortgage deductions, unless you get rid of state and local taxes. that will hit the middle class hard. you have to be honest about this. the debate hurt obama and helped romney, and romney's gotten a bump in the polls, although it seems to be flattening out. you look at the new poll in ohio, the president is at 51%, ronl is at 47%. i think the president, the fundamental structure of the race hasn't been changed, but if he doesn't go on the attack, if biden doesn't do a good job against ryan, and if the president doesn't show up and isn't strong in the second debate, then you're going to have a tossup race. >> well, i would disagree with your approach, first of all. i don't approach that way. that's going back and relate gating all the old arguments. in spirit what i would do unlike shrumy, i would take the big issue that is separate the candidates, don't get into the little trench wa
rid of the charitable deduction, because that's the only way you have revenue neutrality in these tax cuts he's talking about. his only plan for economic improvement in this country is to cut the taxes mainly of the rich. that's his only plan. the only defense of this strategy is he's going to get rid of loopholes. tell us that, governor. show us what you're going to do or stop talking. i think he's got to be that aggressive. but the main message is, show me your cards. stop bluffing. >> we have seen a little bit of telegraphing this week from mr. romney, that maybe he will put some details into his economic talk. he's started to float some new ideas about taxes that he never floated before. my question is whether or not he thinks the right place to unveil those is in a debate setting. surprise the president with something he's never said before or if he wants to save that stuff for a more controlled environment. that will tell us as much about his temperament and his strategy as it will about his plans. let me bring in lawrence o'donnell, chris. lawrence is in the spin room tonight,
on the for the past 18 months. he even through the tax policy away. he just changed everything. it was really unbelievable. i think many people looked at him being more aggressive. that is what they were rewarding. once people started paying attention to exactly why he said, they would see that his -- that he told so many lies and distorted what he was trying to say. i think the president look very presidential. he was not aggressive. he explained exactly what he wanted to say. i thought the whole purpose of the debate was for each one to explain what their policy was. romney just completely changed. that is what was so -- i guess it is not so surprising, because that is what he has done is flip-floping. i hope the president would get an ad out or they show what he has been saying and what he said last night. host: that was an from north carolina. this is from the president's home town newspaper. pieces.susan page's -- piece. she writes -- the podium in front of him not even adorned with the presidential seal. at times he sounded annoyed and defensive about having his tenure challenged in a w
-mail address. d e- [ male announcer ]  who will raise taxes on the middle class? according to an independent, non-partisan study, barack obama and the liberals will raise taxes on the middle class by $4,000. the same organization says the plan from mitt romney and common sense conservatives is "not a tax hike on the middle class." want proof? read the non-partisan study for yourself at obama and his liberal allies? we can't afford four more years. i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. . >>> the head of lockheed martin is under fire after he's accused of knocking down a number of threes -- trees on his property. last month, montgomery county fined robert stevens $500. the property sits on protected land at the national park service overseas. he said he cut down some of the trees because they were in danger of falling after the storm in june. he's promising to restore the land. >>> and that is not the place you so a car, but someone posted the video. the driver initially parked in the circle, which he shouldn't have done and decides to drive around it befo
supports actually does. more huge tax breaks skewed to the wealthy. while cutting nearly eight hundred billion from medicaid... even though middle-class families rely on medicaid to help loved ones cover nursing-home care. and it helps parents support children with disabilities. if mitt romney really "cares," wouldn't we see it in his priorities? infringement on our lives.s s le chaigingsuch too.. the how dare they step into my life that way. it's none of their business. he's trying to restrict us, again. he's taking us backwards. george allen is the last thing we need in washington. anncr: the democratic senatorial campaign committee is... responsible for the content of this advertising. . >>> hitting the grocery store on the way home from work took on a new meaning. billboards will allow you to start shopping on the spot. laura evans is here to explain why you -- where you will find them and how it works. you have my attention. >> reporter: they're cool, shawn. should have your attention on this. one of the biggest internet stores in the country is behind the billboards and
, and relate regulating big business for the protection of the people -- setting reasonable taxes for the welfare of the nation, protecting and maintaining, advancing the national infrastructure. generally acting as leaders. next up is sherry, watching us up in des moines, iowa. caller: i do agree with mitt romney. i think the government is getting way too big. host: next up is les in detroit. a democrat. you are on. caller: we in michigan have to decide in november whether to allow a big state to come into a city to take over and take a financial manager or an emergency manager and. i guess they think the cities who have -- local government where they can come in and remove the city officials. like the mayor, city council. now, i do not think that is what the presidential candidate mitt romney had in mind when he wanted to say states have rights. but what about the city's rights to elect their own elected officials? and i guess follow their own destiny? winnie's a government interference, i understand you are talking about the federal. but i heard mitt romney say states' rights.
and tells you he will tax -- not lower taxes on the rich by cutting out deductions. just like the president said, he did not hammer him enough on it. even if you add up all of the deductions and then the defense spending, you are just going further into the hole. >> thank you. that is dave's tweet to us. we also have our facebook page open and our twitter account. you can send us lots of comments and any of these mediums. you can reach us on this is laurie who is a democrat. >> this is maria. i was calling to say i think romney is running on his ego. what he has been talking about all through this campaign was just taking care of the rich and not try to help the ones down below. there are so many people that need help. when obama bought into office, he already had that debt. it takes time for a person to -- romney should know -- it takes time to settle that big of a debt in more than four years. it will take more for us to get out of the dead that we are in. i think we should give president obama a chance for the next four years and let him prove himself. everybody is fi
from romney and obama. mainly on tax policy. >> reporter: vice president biden charged team romney would hike middle-class taxes. >> how they can justify raising taxes in the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> reporter: republicans jumped on that, buried by obama? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of theitis. >> reporter: that's the kind of zinger sure to be heard at debate number one. i'm steve handelsman, nbc news, denver, colorado. >> and of course we'll have complete all-day coverage leading up to tonight's first 2012 presidential debate and then be sure to stay tuned for the main event, that starts at 9:00 p.m. eastern time right here on msnbc, the place for politics. >>> last night on "the ed show" president obama's senior campaign adviser, robert gibbs, describes what he hopes to hear at tonight's presidential debate. take a listen. >> i hope the moderator gives governor romney a chance to
according to an independent, non-partisan study, barack obama and the liberals will raise taxes on the middle class by $4,000. the same organization says the plan from mitt romney and common sense conservatives is "not a tax hike on the middle class." want proof? read the non-partisann study for yourself at ba and his liberal allies?s? we can't afford four more years. i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >> live and in hd, this is abc 7 "news at noon," on your side. this is breaking news. with breaking news pennsylvania. >> former penn state assistant been jerry sandusky has on 45 counts of sexual abuse. we will talk with brad bell for latest. >> the sentencing in this courthouse, the judge said that put matt sandusky centuries but he said the sentence would be 30 years 0 years. that means he will spend the rest of his life in prison because he is already 68 years old. statements from three victims they could notd what jerryforget did to they all said that he stole childhood. in the hearing today it was who got up in his red jail house jumpsuit and
on c-span2, a look at what happens to individual taxes if the bush era tax cuts expire. former congressional budget office director douglas holtz-eakin and other economists look at the issue. our live coverage from the urban institute here in washington, d.c. starts at noon eastern. >> every generation through our history has worked and sacrificed to leave a better country to their children and grandchildren and future generations. we, we were then spending their money, we are now even more, much more, spending their money, and we are leaving them a mess that will be a very difficult to deal with, and if we are that weak, just think of who wants to come here first and take us over. now, the last thing i ever want to see is to see our country taken over because we're so financially weak we can't do anything. >> uh-huh. >> and we're moving in that direction. we're on the edge of the cliff, and we have got to start fixing it now, otherwise we're leaving a disaster to our children and grandchildren in the future, and we could even lose our country. >> ross perot, interviewed by "us
and mitt romney, specifically on taxes, look at this, the president with an eight-point advantage, 52% to 44%. interesting, republicans ushualy have the upper hand on taxes. >> that's a win so far. >> it's all about the economy and jobs, jobs, jobs. mitt romney with a six-point advantage there. and two of those probably coming up on wednesday night. what do you think? >> the jobs and economy are so segregated in people's minds anyway. wow, fascinating. what about overall, i like the guy, i don't like the guy? >> it's a huge factor. the president used to have a big advantage when it comes to likability, favorable ratings. take a look at our numbers from yesterday. 52% had a favorable rating of the president, mitt romney's not that far off at 49%. what about the wing man, joe biden 47%, paul ryan 46%. all kind of in the same range. >> how often do we poll about the wing man? i rarely see the actual numbers separated for the vice presidential candidate. >> they face off next week. more numbers on them. >> and just lastly, while we look at these polls and hear a lot of people arguing abou
-- >> specific. >> it is not a goal to end tax breaks for companies that move jobs overseas and incentivize them to come back and create a million jobs in manufacturingp. we've seen the greatest increase in manufacturing jobs in more than 20 years under this president. so we have a sense of what has to happen in order to bring those businesses back and create those jobs. those aren't goals. you know, reducing our dependence on foreign oil by increasing our domestic production incentivizing clean energy to create jobs and put people back to work, those aren't goals, those are plans to continue to move this economy forward. look, i also hope that mitt romney will take some of the time paul ryan didn't want to take in his interview this weekend and try to explain the arithmetic behind their budget. paul ryan said it would take too long to explain their budget plan. the problem isn't the time and explanation. it's the math that's involved to make the statements that mitt romney and paul ryan have said line up to being anything close to the truth. and i think that governor romney will likely whether
and as fox's craig boswell reports, they tackled the economy, taxes and health care. >> reporter: after weeks of preparation and months of anticipation, president obama and mitt romney meet face to face debating policy and differences of opinion. >> reporter: president obama and mitt romney tacted directly to one another meeting -- talked directly to one another. >> governor romney has a perspective that says, if we cut taxes, skew towards the wealthy and roll back regulation, that we'll be better off. i've got a different view. >> i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. so what i do is i bring down the tax rates. >> reporter: the republican nominee revealing his plan to reduce the deficit. >> what things would i cut from spending? i will eliminate all programs by this test. is the program so critical, it is worth borrowing money from china to pay for it. if not, i'll get rid of it. obamacare is on my list. i apologize, mr. president. >> governor romney at the beginning of this date said what we did in massachusetts could be a model for the nation. >> reporter: informing their plans
justify raising taxes on the middle class has been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising taxes with these tax cuts? >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. of course the middle class has been buried. they're being buried by regulations. they're being buried by taxes. they're being buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama administration's economic failures. >> reporter: romney campaign put together a conference call to draw attention, more focus to the comments by the vice president. the obama campaign pushed back saying this was just another act of desperation and what the vice president was talking about were -- were situations or a climate that was put in place by the failed policies of the former administration. i'll tell you what, at the very next event during his remarkings, the vice president did touch on the same subject but left out the word buried. s
the other debate where he made stuff up and didn't know his own tax plan, making them stick to what they've been the last six or seven months. >> this is where i think paul ryan will have pressure on him and where i expect paul ryan to perform very well. i mean, i found obama's debate performance totally lacking in specifics. we still don't know what his tax plan is or his deficit plan or his budget plan. but paul ryan has become the personification for the democrats of all that is callous and cold and evil about the romney campaign. so ryan now has i think an opportunity to not only explain his plan more importantly romney's plan, but to explain it in a way that is compassionate and human. and i expect he'll do a very good job of that. >> there's a tricky thing that ryan has to do. and i think you suggested it there, carly. there's clearly a distinction between the ryan plan. actually, there have been multiple ryan plans on multiple fronts. >> that's right. >> and the romney plan. so ryan can't get lured into a debate over the specifics. >> i agree with you. >> here's the problem, mitt
and mr. ryan have given no details but have given a promise that they're going to reduce taxes by 20%, how does mitt romney deal with that tomorrow? what does he actually say that he has previously refused to say on explaining that? >> well, i think it's fascinating that they're treating mitt romney like he's the president and a lot in the media treat president obama like he's the challenger. what president george w. bush did when he was governor of texas is said i want to reduce taxes across the board and i want to make sure we have a balanced budget. he wasn't very specific during the campaign, and when he became president, he released a series of principles that went to capitol hill that said these are the measures that meet my -- >> here is the problem with that though, ron. people who have assessed his mathematics have deemed them to be completely impossible. michael, this is just in from mitt romney on how he'll pay for his massive 20% across the board tax cut. take a listen. >> everybody is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction and you can use your charitable deduction or you
actually, it is a bit more than that. but we do not need is a tax increase that will cost us 700,000 jobs. two years ago, the president said you do not want to raise taxes in a bad economy. the economy was better than that it is now. ladies and gentleman, this is a big choice. it is not only about taxes. it is about freedom. it is about our principles. it is about our country. it is about the idea of our country. america is so much more than a country with a flag. it is an idea. these ideas make us who we are. they make us special. i will see something that in washington is considered out of date or wrong, and it is this -- america is an exceptional nation. we are not afraid to say so. [cheers and applause] >> usa! usa! usa! >> we have a chance to get ourselves on the right track. we have a chance to vote for someone who will protect our freedoms. he will lead to protect our religious freedom. he will protect our second amendment rights. ladies and gentlemen, right here in virginia, we have a big choice to make. america has a big choice to make. america will make the right choice
. >> for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> you said you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? look, i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant, but the idea that you get a break for shipping jobs overseas is simply not the case. mr. president, you're entitled to your own airplane and your own house but not your facts. i don't have any plan to cut education funding and grants for people on going to college i'm continuing on growing. is it so critical it's worth paying to china? i apologize, mr. president. i use that term with all respect. okay, good. so i'll get rid of that. >> i don't know what he was doing out there. he had his head down. he was enduring the debate rather than fighting it. romney, on the other hand, came in with a campaign. he had a plan. he was going to dominate the time. he was going to be aggressive. he's going to push the moderator around, which he did effectively. he was going to relis
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